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PSi Bylaws Discussion / Re: Unofficial Ground Rules
« on: November 10, 2013, 09:38:00 AM »
Can we get the most recent copy of the bylaws posted?

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 30, 2012, 08:49:29 PM »
After practice Sunday night we discussed this issue as a team and have decided it was best to comply with PSI policy.

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 29, 2012, 05:20:52 PM »
I just read an email from Abbey that says my player (who assures me that she is 18, and I trust her WE'VE ALWAYS OPERATED ON THE HONOR SYSTEM AROUND HERE) has to show her i.d. before my team can register. Supposedly this is per the EC. 

I ask that thoughtful, serious minded people on the EC reconsider this. When we arrive in Charlotte and we're the ONLY team that has to have a member show id, that is an act of discrimination.

If PSI insurance doesn't cover minors, that insurance doesn't cover minors ON ALL TEAMS - not just a minor that could be on my team. I can't be the only team required to have one member show ID. EVERY TEAM MEMBER ON EVERY TEAM HAS TO SHOW ID.

Think about this.

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 28, 2012, 07:20:38 PM »
I'm not trying to be obnoxious (too late!), but I thought there really was an intent around requiring a slam to be open to all ages in order to be NPS-eligible (though exceptions are pretty regularly granted). Is that covered over in venue certification instead?
Amy is on the right track here.  There is no confusion in the wording.  The team must be selected from an ongoing reading series whose venue has the characteristics of
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Teams must be chosen from an ongoing slam or reading series open to all poets regardless of age, sex, race, ability, appearance, or sexual orientation.
  The "series" is "open to all".  It does not say the team that comes out of that series may be all ages.  This is a general statement of which venues may send teams to NPS, ones that meet PSI certification.  It does not have anything to say about who may be on that team, nor about what the separate and specific requirements are for team members or individual poets at a specific event.
  For someone to compete in NPS, team members must be 21 plus, unless 18 plus is ok'ed by the host city because of the availability of 18 to 20 year old friendly venues.  This language was passed by slammasters in the spring meeting of 2005, I believe.
  For someone to compete in WOWPS, that poet must live life as a woman.   The fact that the venue qualifies to send a woman by being "open to all" doesn't mean they can send just anyone to this event.  That seems pretty clear.
  In like manner, you can't point to the language cited above about a venue being "open to all" and say the qualifications for team members for NPS are unclear.  They are not.  One statement refers to the operations of the slam venue, the other clearly states the restrictions/qualifications for team members.
     I understand pulling for your team members.  Glad to hear your poet is 18 years old, and is able to compete.

C'mon Henry. Not my main , man, too! REALLY??? You really mean to tell me the present "Team Eligibility"means ONLY the reading series needs to be "open to all" NOT NPS???  Does that really make sense??? Teams have to be chosen from venues "open to all ages, races, genders,  - but NPS can discriminate??? That slope is slippery, my friends.

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 26, 2012, 05:56:14 PM »
Since we're being pedantic, the rulebook says that the slam or reading series needs to be open to all ages, not that the team itself needs to be.

But yes, it's unclear and should use an update.

Pedantic? The rule is named in the headline "Team Eligibility" , Amy.  The rule describes team eligibility for going to Nationals. The very first sentence says "teams must be chosen from an ongoing slam or reading series open to all ages.....". That's not pedantic. It's explicit. It's emphatic.

How is such a rule merely pedantic, when it effects the team eligibility process? On one page the rule book says Nationals is a 21+ event. Then in the "Team Eligibility " section it says your team trying to qualify for Nationals must chosen from a reading series open to all ages.   That's a contradiction.

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 26, 2012, 07:27:17 AM »
Jester, there  needs to be a motion to change the ACTUAL EXPLICIT language of the team eligibility rule. Based on the PRESENT RULE a team is eligible to attend NPS IF MEMBERS OF THE TEAM WERE CHOSEN REGARDLESS OF AGE, and other DISCRIMINATORY factors.

To limit NPS to adults 18 + or 21+ is not wrong. Certain theaters don't let kids below a certain age see CERTAIN movies and teens aren't allowed to buy cigarettes. BUT  OUR OFFICIAL RULE BOOK NEEDS TO STATE EXPLICITLY IN THE TEAM ELIGIBILITY SECTION THAT WE LEGALLY DISCRIMINATE BASED ON AGE.

I think that's the real source of the confusion about the issue.


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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 25, 2012, 07:11:56 PM »
After seven years,you guys should know me by now. I ACTUALLY read the bylaws and the rule book.

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 25, 2012, 07:08:42 PM »
By the way the MOS RECENT NPS rules book revision says:

"Team Eligibility.

Teams must be chosen from an ongoing slam or reading series open to all poets regardless of age, sex, race, ability, appearance, or sexual orientation. All certified/registered venues are expected to uphold the Equal Opportunity Statement. Team members must be chosen through some form of competition; how that competition is structured is up to the local venue or SlamMaster so long as anyone who considers him/herself to be a part of the community fielding the slam team has the competitive opportunity to join it.

Because Poetry Slam is growing, not all certified venues can necessarily be included in the National Poetry Slam. To accommodate as many poets as possible, from as diverse a geographic base as can be achieved, some certified Poetry Slams will be encouraged to share an invitation to the National Poetry Slam. A person participating at the NPS can only be either a member of one and only one team."

No organization is perfect, but we seem to have an ongoing theme of rules contradiction and policy.

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 25, 2012, 07:00:30 PM »
Inkera???

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 25, 2012, 06:59:08 PM »
The PSI rule is clear.  But I've seen under 21's competing in recent Nationals.

So the exception to that rule is the Host City can explicitly decide otherwise. Now my question is: IS THE CHARLOTTE HOST CITY COMMITTEE  NOT ALLOWING UNDER 21???

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 25, 2012, 06:44:07 PM »
Clarification: Under 21????

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 25, 2012, 06:40:05 PM »
So the Charlotte Host City Committee has decided that NPS 2012 is off limits o those under 18????

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: July 25, 2012, 05:09:39 PM »
I thought there were no issues with underage poets this year since no bouts are in bars this year. I have a new replacement player and she is 17.

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Slam Selection Processes / Re: Houston Poetry Slam Qualifying Process
« on: July 23, 2012, 07:20:51 PM »
For those of you dying to know, my computer is working so....here's an update:

1. Malcolm Jackson a.k.a SPEAK, became the newest member of the Houston Slam Team as the result of a alternates slam held in April.

2. Ashley Netorize bexane the newset member of the Houston Slam Team as the result of an alternate slam held in May.

3. Loyce Gyo replaced Ashley as a result of an alternate Slam held July 4th.

The 2012 Houston Slam Team is Savannah Blue, Brother Said, Black Blues, Speak, and Loyce Gyo.

See you at Nationals. Probably our last Nationals for at least a couple of years. 

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General Discussion / Re: NPS 2012 competing teams
« on: June 07, 2012, 11:10:37 PM »
Houston Poetry Slam will pay registration by this weekend BUT the event registration page is blank now. Do we pay via the general donation portal?

By the way we are certified, and we have a Winurin record and we were represented in the Spring SlamMaster meeting by proxy.

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