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Title: NPS formats by year
Post by: Scott Woods on August 16, 2007, 06:52:30 PM
The EC has compiled the following information on NPS events for convenient reference.
We will have this rubric for all events in spearate threads, but here is NPS now.

NPS 2006, Austin
Total # of teams: 73
5x3 structure
Days = 4
Prelims: 8 venues, 2 bouts per night
Semis: 5 venues, 5 teams per bout (25 teams)
Finals: 5x4, 5 teams in finals, 4 slots

NPS 2007, Austin
Total # of teams: 75
5x3 structure
No repeat rule all week
Days = 5
Prelims: 5 venues, 2 bouts per night
Semis: 5 venues, 5 teams per bout (25 teams)
Finals: 5x3, 5 teams in finals, 3 slots

NPS 2008, Madison
Total # of teams: tbd
(Needs to be divisible by number of venues and by 4 (teams per bout)   Total number of teams should also be divisible by three (number of prelim nights) (For five venues 60, or for 6 venues 72, or for 7 venues 84) Other numbers can also work, just not as easily. (For example, if we go with three bouts a night, a long night, we could make 5 venues work for up to 90 teams.)
4x4 structure
No repeat rule all week
Days = 5
Prelims: x venues, 2 bouts per night, 4x4
Semis: 4 venues, 5x4, 5 teams per bout (20 teams total in semis)
Finals: 4x4, 4 teams in finals, 4 slots

Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: rcw on November 21, 2007, 04:12:55 PM
For the semis in 2008 at 5x4 does that mean that each team does 4 poems?

Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: inkera on November 22, 2007, 12:41:16 AM
Yes that is exactly what that means (five teams and four rounds).

Inkera
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: WitsEndPoetry on March 06, 2008, 06:55:37 PM
Just to be clear.

Are teams now limited to four poets or can teams still bring 5 poets for their four slots?

Thanks

Kimberly
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: jesster on March 07, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
Just to be clear.

Are teams now limited to four poets or can teams still bring 5 poets for their four slots?

Thanks

Kimberly

Steve touches on this topic in this thread

http://poetryslam.com/forum/index.php?topic=4227.0

The answer is yes.  For the 4x4 format, teams can bring 4 or 5 poets.  I don't know if this means you can have 5 poets in a group piece.  Can anyone answer that?

For Win and You're In bouts, only 4 poets may be brought.  Although if you have two W&YI bouts, you may swap poets in and out as long ast those poets haven't performed in a W&YI bout for another team.

-Jesse
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: The Award Winning DwnTown Poetry Krewe on March 26, 2008, 09:45:35 AM
Let me see if I got this right, so each team will perform 3 prelim nights right, instead of 2?
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: Steve on March 26, 2008, 10:58:04 AM
Yahfu, no, everyone will still perform two nights but each team will also have a night "off." Your team might have performances on Tuesday and Wednesday or Tuesday and Thursday. That is to accommodate the much larger field of teams than in the past.
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: simmetry on March 26, 2008, 01:42:16 PM

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The answer is yes.  For the 4x4 format, teams can bring 4 or 5 poets.  I don't know if this means you can have 5 poets in a group piece.  Can anyone answer that?


Jesster, if I understand correctly you can still do a 5 person group piece, you just have to comply with the rules of primary authorship. So for example, if that 5-person group piece has two primary authors the remaining 3 poets will have to reappear as the primary author of another piece that you throw up in that bout.

I think that is how it works...
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: The Award Winning DwnTown Poetry Krewe on March 26, 2008, 05:01:44 PM
Thanks Steve
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: jesster on March 26, 2008, 08:40:52 PM

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The answer is yes.  For the 4x4 format, teams can bring 4 or 5 poets.  I don't know if this means you can have 5 poets in a group piece.  Can anyone answer that?


Jesster, if I understand correctly you can still do a 5 person group piece, you just have to comply with the rules of primary authorship. So for example, if that 5-person group piece has two primary authors the remaining 3 poets will have to reappear as the primary author of another piece that you throw up in that bout.

I think that is how it works...


Ah, so I would have to assume you can't have a 5 person group piece with one primary author?

-Jesster
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: Steve on March 27, 2008, 07:02:02 AM
Well, I'll leave it to Erik Daniel to explain the finer lines of the rule, but you CAN have a 5 voice piece with one primary author as long as all voices are represented as primary authors somewhere else in the bout.
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: AmyD on March 27, 2008, 06:15:29 PM
Yahfu, no, everyone will still perform two nights but each team will also have a night "off." Your team might have performances on Tuesday and Wednesday or Tuesday and Thursday. That is to accommodate the much larger field of teams than in the past.

or wednesday and thursday :-)
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: dhendler on July 21, 2008, 12:05:08 PM
Pardon my denseness...

So "no repeat all week" means a poet would need, at bare minimum, 4 poems, yes? 1 for each prelim, 1 for semis, 1 for finals?

And is there an Indie Finals? No repeat for that either?

Thanks.
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: Scott Woods on July 21, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: karen_g on July 21, 2008, 02:05:39 PM
Pardon my denseness...

So "no repeat all week" means a poet would need, at bare minimum, 4 poems, yes? 1 for each prelim, 1 for semis, 1 for finals?

And is there an Indie Finals? No repeat for that either?

Thanks.


The rule of thumb I use is that each poet should have at least the arsenal enough to make it the whole way through---and by that, I mean as if each poet had to do all four rounds each night, which this year means 16 poems.
I leave exceptions for rookies or major life events throwing a wrench in that plan.This is Nationals!
Plan on winning!
Map it that way.Map it a few different ways.
It helps to categorize the poems of your poets like a set list, by theme, by group, and where they would go in each round of each bout under every circumstance of your draw (A,B,C,D)
I leave exceptions for myself as a slam ma'am on this with life events throwing a wrench in that plan, and also, by living in the moment of the thing and where the hearts of the poets are in it.My main goal, really, is for the poets on my team to feel they did the best job and they did what they wanted everyone to hear.
No repeats.
No repeats year to year if you can help it.

No Indies this year. Instead
GROUP PIECE FACE OFF!
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: Bob Whoopeecat Stephenson on April 27, 2009, 08:46:45 AM
Is there a possibility of getting times for the mandatory orientations posted soon?  We are trying to book flights to WPB and want make sure we leave enough time to check in and attend a meeting.  Thanks Gents.
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: inkera on April 27, 2009, 10:22:23 AM
This is posted on the www.nps2009.com site

2009 Schedule       
Mon., August 3
Early Registration: 11:00 am - 1:00 pm & 4:30 - 6:00 pm
Personnel and Team Orientation: 3:00 - 4:00 pm

Tues., August 4
Registration: 10:00 am - 1:00 pm
Personnel and Team Orientation: 2:00 - 3:00 pm
Preliminary Bouts

Wed., August 5
Preliminary Bouts

Thurs., August 6
Preliminary Bouts 

Fri., August 7
Semi-Final Bouts 

Sat., August 8
Finals night
 
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: debmarsh on April 27, 2009, 12:29:20 PM
Hi All,
Why did we change it from last year?  Was there a concern over not having enough time?

This was last year's schedule:

TEAM REGISTRATION & CHECK-IN
All teams must check in at NPS headquarters to receive Poet passes, bags competition materials and to confirm participation in this year's contest.  Registration will take place on the 2nd floor of the Concourse Hotel at the following times ONLY:
Monday, Aug. 4
11 am - 1 pm
4:30 pm - 6 pm

Tuesday, Aug. 5
10 am - 1 pm
 
TEAM ORIENTATION
(Yes, it's mandatory.  For everyone.  Really.)
Every NPS team member and coach must participate in one of the 2008 Orientation sessions.  Please don't make us disqualify your team or any of its members because you decided to skip orientation. Okay?  Orientation will also take place on the 2nd floor of the Concourse Hotel:
 
Monday, Aug. 4
2 pm - 3 pm


Tuesday, Aug. 5
3 pm - 4 pm
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: karen_g on April 27, 2009, 02:30:31 PM
Different-ish format question-- the team rotation IN bouts was changed at SM in Madison, but I my notes are in a big pile of many piles.
What's the new rotation?
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: chunky32 on July 07, 2009, 11:52:24 AM
Is 5 by 4 in effect for 2009 Nats
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: jesster on July 07, 2009, 03:40:38 PM
Is 5 by 4 in effect for 2009 Nats

Still 4x4 (4 teams in 4 rounds) with up to 5 people on a team.

Everyone who steps on stage must perform at least one poem they had primary authorship on.

-Jesster
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: plunderphonics on July 07, 2011, 04:43:07 PM
Is the format set for NPS 2011?

Also, I have heard conflicting reports regarding the "no repeat rule. "

If anyone has any answers that would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: inkera on July 07, 2011, 07:39:37 PM
The tournament is 4x4 and poems can be repeated on the finals stage.

There has not been a change from last year.
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: plunderphonics on July 08, 2011, 08:59:21 AM
Thanks Inkera!

So how many pieces will a team perform if they go all the way?

12 if they choose to repeat on finals, and 16 if they choose not to correct?
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: jesster on July 08, 2011, 09:08:24 AM
Thanks Inkera!

So how many pieces will a team perform if they go all the way?

12 if they choose to repeat on finals, and 16 if they choose not to correct?

Correct.

And as always, primary authorship is in effect. Everyone who steps on stage during a bout must be represented during the bout with a piece they have written. More than one poet can have written one poem. If they wrote one line of that poem, that's not authorship.

-Jesster
Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: Rameshi on November 03, 2011, 05:14:24 AM
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Title: Re: NPS formats by year
Post by: Scott Woods on November 03, 2011, 08:02:11 AM
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