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« on: December 03, 2006, 02:22:35 PM »
It's been brought up during our slams that some want to do haikus as tie breakers. I've looked through the Rulebook and did not find anything abut haikus being used to break ties. I've heard about them at other slams and such. I dont know how to implament this. Can someone give me 411 on this process?  :?

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2006, 05:36:39 PM »
Hi Raul,

Local slams don't have to follow NPS rules to the letter.

So if one wanted to implement a haiku deathmatch as a tiebreaker, they can.

You can use any legitimate method to break a tie in your venue.

But essentially, each person in the tiebreaker slams with a haiku.  The judges pick either poet 1 or poet 2, majority rule wins.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2006, 07:42:12 PM »
Soooo :shock: one haiku each and judges choose one of the two. Majority wins.
Thanks Delrica!

on a similar but different note...

Hey do you know how haiku slams/battles run? Is it pretty much a normal slam except with haikus? or is there a twist to it? I've only seen clips of them on video... i want to try one at our slam.  :P

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2006, 11:36:43 PM »
Hey, Raul:

The only major difference between regular poetry slam and the Head to Head Haiku format is that, just like your tiebreaker, all rounds pit two poets against one another directly and judges don't score, but just vote for which poet they prefer.

There are other very specific ritual rules to the Head to Head Haiku slam as developed by Daniel Ferry. I don't know them all, but you can email Dan about it, or you could also email his protoge, Sam R I.

Email or message me if you'd like me to put you in touch with Sam to answer questions about the format for you. She's actually running one at my venue this coming Wednesday.

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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2006, 10:08:24 AM »
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Hey do you know how haiku slams/battles run? Is it pretty much a normal slam except with haikus? or is there a twist to it? I've only seen clips of them on video... i want to try one at our slam.  :P

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I think it depends on the type of haiku slam you're running.

If you're running a haiku head-to-head (© Dan Ferry) competition, then you'd definitely use the format that Simone and I mention where you pit one poet against each other. Winner advances to the next round, etc. until only one remains.

But with the Head to Head format from NPS, two poets are pitted against each other.  For each set of poets, there are three rounds. Best 2 of 3 moves to the next round.  It's tourney style, so there're the first wave, then those winners go head to head, then the winners of the next set go against each other until only two remain.

When you get to the final two, there's a battle royale where you can go as many rounds as you wish (I think they have to be odd numbered rounds or something - can't remember that part) and the one with the most wins in that final round win the whole deal.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2006, 10:26:03 AM »
Dan Ferry has no copyright on the Head to Head Haiku. In Poetry Slam land we think of Dan as the holder of the form. But I would never ascribe any kind of "ownership" of it to Dan Ferry. There have been head to head haiku matches going on for the last one thousand years, at least. So let's put ourselves in a little historical perspective on this idea.

If you want to know something about the historical concept of haiku and haiku competition, I'd recommend a little book called Bishiki by Tazuo Yamaguchi available in the online store at http://www.poetryslam.com/modules.php?name=Store&mode=catdetail&catid=3

And you could contact Tazuo directly through his website http://www.tazuo.com/

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2006, 11:55:10 AM »
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Dan Ferry has no copyright on the Head to Head Haiku. In Poetry Slam land we think of Dan as the holder of the form. But I would never ascribe any kind of "ownership" of it to Dan Ferry. There have been head to head haiku matches going on for the last one thousand years, at least. So let's put ourselves in a little historical perspective on this idea.


Sorry! I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification, Steve.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2006, 12:25:35 PM »
thanks guys!  :D

we'll begin trying those next year!

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2006, 01:42:28 PM »
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thanks guys!  :D

we'll begin trying those next year!

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Oh, they're great fun!  We can't wait to have ours in 2007.  Oh yeah.
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